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Are the Rich Getting Richer (or Snobbier)?

Posted in Chapter 7, Deron M.'s Entries, Introduction on November 20, 2009 by Deron Molen

Going all the back to chapter 7, one thing that struck me was how much of a brat Alice acted like during the tea party. She rudely planted herself down in an open seat without even asking if it was taken. The March Hare took offense to Alice assuming that the seat was hers. Alice should have kept quite and apologized for her actions but instead became angry when the Hare got back at her by offering wine that really wasn’t there.

Now flashing all the way back to the introduction. When we are first introduced to the real Alice we learn that she is from a well off upper class English family. The same goes for the imaginary Alice.

Stereotypically, upper class citizens are seen as snobbish. We all know (or should know) that those stereotypes are often very, very inaccurate. In an era where the divide between rich and poor was very steep, could Carroll be trying to convince Alice to not fill the stereotype of the time?

On the other side, Alice could be rude just because she still holds on to her childhood innocence. Children are known for being immature and often rude just because they don’t know any better. As children mature, they are able to avoid situations where they can be misunderstood.


Could Carroll be warning the real Alice to not fall into the same trap as the imaginary Alice or is he just illustrating how childhood innocence can sometimes be perceived as rude and immature?

Is he even trying to make a point at all?

Those Old Hags

Posted in Beth A.'s Entries, Chapter 6, Chapter 7 on November 10, 2009 by Elizabeth A.

In Chapter 6, we finally meet the Duchess that we have read about. We meet her and she is the ugliest thing imaginable, according the context and Tenniel’s illustration. Tenniel is said to have somewhat copied from Quentin Matsys’ painting, which is regarded as the portrait of duchess Margaret of Carinthia and Tyrol. Then, in Chapter 8, we meet the Queen of Hearts, and she isn’t (at least in Tenniel’s illustration) the most attractive woman ever, though more attractive than the duchess.

So far, I have noticed that all the “older” women have been very unattractive. Carroll may have told Tenniel to draw the women a certain way-to make them look old and ugly. Alice, on the other hand, looks older than only 7 (we are told that she is 7 in an annotation in Chapter 7). So, did Tenniel have no creative direction from Carroll? Or did Carroll tell Tenniel specifically to make the older woman just dreadful looking? Yes, we know that Carroll had an obsession with Alice, so did this contribute and spew over in the illustrations?